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Man, the K Series has four bikes with that fabulous engine. And it’s a known fact that the Grand America iteration is hard to feel well balanced beyond certain higher speeds…Trade it for one of the other three options. That’s not a flaw. It’s more a limit due to the character and design of that specific version of the BMW K1600. Swap the entire bike, not only the tyres! ✌🏻

I just purchased a new K1600B Grand America. I knew about the stability issues so I took a pretty long test ride before I got it and took it on the highway and at 90 mph it was very stable but a few years ago I rode a 2018 or 19 and that thing was scary. I told the dealer about it and bought something else. Im a little smaller than you though. 5"9" and about 212lbs.Chears from Minnesota.

I rode the K1600 B yesterday. I didn't like it!😢 It's a top heavy bike, and the pegs are under you like on an Adventure bike. I have bad knees, and need forward controls. I just purchased a New Rocket 3 GT, and it's much more comfortable, and it will soothe my soul. I miss my 2016 Rocket III, with 260hp, that burned up in a fire, but the New Rocket 3 is just better, as far as tech and looks. I will adapt 😂 Stay Safe Y'all!!! 😎

I bought my MPAS directly from Chameleon and it came with the sling bag. It doesn’t hold the 3’ whips for the cap hat though. So I need to come up with a solution for that.

Nice video. I have a HD touring bike and a GSA. Any R1250RT people out there have opinions on the RT vs the K1600B? I read an article (I know, one person's opinion), that the RT was superior to the 1600 as a touring bike. Any thoughts on that?

It's not the tires. It's the adjustable windshield!😮

Very sparkly!?😂

OMG!!!😮

What's the major issue? Point is? Of course it's better than a Harley!!!😂

It’s low profile but I like the bigger back pack. You can never have enough space. 73.

Hello Syber, thank you for your detailed report. I can't really understand how you think you're in a position to give a rating after less than 1000 miles. I always have to smile a little when somebody compare HD and/or Indian with a BMW. A BMW will always be sportier than, for example, an HD or Indian, even if models of the brands have sport in their name ;-). And of course that also applies to the chassis and the damping. Comparing a 6 cylinder with a 2 cylinder is also difficult, in my opinion. I've driven HD several times in the USA and was always disappointed with the engine and shocked by the brakes. I haven't heard of the problems you're describing in Germany. A pseudo-problem in Europe is that some people report that the motorbike is a bit cumbersome in the Alps, you wouldn't believe it :-) As far as I know, the motorcycle is limited to 200 km/h in Europe. Have fun with the bike and a safe and enjoyable journey to all

Rather impressive when the bands are good and pretty much a wet noodle will work. But how impressive is it in bad bands conditions? Also hearing isn’t as good as getting out. You probably could’ve heard those stations with just a plan piece of wire.

I own the same bike just in Manhattan color, I have not had any issues with handling at all, but I check my pressure before every ride, and I also keep my rear pressure at 43lbs instead of 42 and it actually has made a world of difference in the handling, it keeps the nose down at all speeds, even at 120, don't ask me how I know. I have ridden plenty of times with no hands on bars, and I have not noticed any stability issues. This is my second one, I did not like my first one it was a 2018 K1600b, and it had stability issues. I test rode the 23, and I have not had any problems with ride quality.

BMW is fully aware of this issue; their deafening silence regarding this potentially life-ending issue speaks volumes.

I hv a 2023 K1600B w 3500 miles...so far absolutely no problems.. Still hv my 2010 road glide and 2004 softail heritage

I have lusted for your bike for several years but for the exact reason you discuss at the end about oscillation I won't touch it. The speed is limited to something like 100 mph because BMW knows it is a problem, as reported by many other riders. I would love to dump my 15 year old Harley Ultra but I don't have any wobble or wandering at any speed, even over 100 mph. I am a big boy too at 280 lbs and 6'3" with feet at 14. That is my second problem with any BMW, no floorboards or pedals or pegs that I can manipulate with my feet. Why the tiny itsy bitsy foot controls? Excellent review of your bike, rare to find someone as well spoken and detailed as you have done, thanks.

Much appreciated.

Why not Goldwing?

Video title starts at 13:00

They say the not tracking straight has to do with the floorboards. The model with out them is good. Also the one with the tourpack on it is limited to 100mph because of aerodynamics

I want to sit in my home office and listen to and talk to folks. What do I need to purchase?

All the k 1600 b’s and GT’s have that issue. No other bikes have that issues. Harley’s Indians other bmw models triumphs Hondas. Perfect. But all my 1600 K bikes are terrible on the highway.

The menu "display partition..." What does that change?

Enjoyed the video , I had a question about the weight ? I heard about them being mid 8 but I just got one from Zzounds that is 6.12 it also has a serial #V700254 , any idea how many they are making.

You need the rite windshield and arrow wings,it solved my buffering on my 2018BGA,also I've heard the floor boards may be a issue. Get the Bren tune

Mine did the exact same thing in the case when I got it from sweetwater. It actually left a few scuffs on the top side that thankfully buffed out.

So, have you traded it away yet?

aerodynamics are bad, thats why it's speed limited. BMW isn't going to fix it because there isn't a fix. additionally, when it comes down to a safety item on any vehicle? The manufacturer will never own up to it because when they do, they will have to recall and fix every one of those motorcycles. It's just like Harley Davidson, owning up to the fact that they built a defective transmission and oil supply system for the engine when they first produced M8. they would have to recall every one of those first generation MA8 engine transmission combination and fix the problem. Therefore, they will never own up to it. They will never ever give you your money back they will never ever in any kind of formal communication Admit there's a problem. and I can promise you the GT does not have the problem. I test rode a GT at 125 miles an hour and it's rock solid even around the air from other cars on a motorway.

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The title says major issues and early on you say there aren’t any issues. Clicking close on the video was the result of your contradiction.

I have the 2019 Grand America and it drifts quite a bit. Scary as $h!+ when it mysteriously occurs. Michelins didn’t fix my problem.

Congrats my friend! Such an axe 🔥🧯

How much does it cost to get a permit for the death valley drive?

5/15/24 Update - As of now, my bike still wobbles and it hasn't been fixed. The service center didn't find any issues with the bike and said "It rides like other K1600B's, its just the way the bike is for some people unfortunately". BMW stated to me "The bike is operating as designed" - Nice so, instability behind a truck or car is as designed? Harley doesn't have this issue, nor does Honda on their touring model bikes. I've ridden a ton of them over the years. I've got an update video in the works which will showcase the problem and comments from other owners. I've reached out to the heads of BMW with no resolve as of now, they told me 7 to 10 days they would have an answer for me on how they intend to help. We still have a few days left in that time period. I will keep everyone updated, but as I of now, I would HIGHLY recommend NOT purchasing one of these bikes without a very through test ride on a highway.

B is a beautiful bike. I was looking to get one but I will avoid it until BMW takes ownership and rectifies. Hate that corp playing dumb sh**!

All saddle bags be off correct.

Great vid. I have the exact same bike as you. I love the side stand position, it’s just great for me. Bike also stable and no wobble or weave. Keep an eye on oil consumption it can be a bit erratic on times. Mine came from the factory full of oil, right up to the top of the oil filler. Thankfully I noticed it within the first 50 miles of break in and corrected it. Enjoy the ride. All the best.

Hello, what is the length of the windshield you put on the bike and what is your height. Great review 👍

Navigation from BMW is a joke

This issue also reminds me of the s1000xr vibration issue..sometimes social media is great ! I was able to steal one because of it! All in-line 4s have vibration..even Honda..it was an easy resolve..

I have a 22 and an 18 prior..no wiggle for me..trucks on the interstate are troublesome..I learned to keep tire pressure up on the 18..I mistakenly ran them at 32 for too long..went to mich gt5..sweet difference…I also dislike the nav requiring my phone..

My 2023 is perfect and drives like a dream. You do have to take care of your tires and keep them properly inflated and not have flat spots.

Regarding the oscillation issue,,,,,, I use to weigh in at 290-315 lbs.. Wether I was riding a bicycle or my motorcycle, all that extra up top weight definitely had a similar effect while riding . I’m now at 240-250 lbs. and no longer have this issue.

I just bought a ‘23 K1600 B, 2 months ago. I’ve read up a bunch on the road oscillation problem, and other folks take on them. Full disclosure: I had a ‘13 K1600GT for 10 years before trading for this one, and it never displayed the problem: rock stable on the highway, regardless of the air. One interesting comment I’ve heard is that the windscreen may be a contributor to the airflow problem; that changing to a taller/wider ‘screen may help quite a bit. For my own bike, I’ve never experienced this problem (yet!). I can basically ride hands off for quite a distance without wandering laterally. But, I’ve only got about 350 miles on my bike due to late winter/early spring snowfalls. I’ve also heard that the Grand America seems to be worse in this regard, suggesting that the top case is also a contributor to the airflow oscillation.

My 2017 GT has that very issue, but not all the time...

You need to see this video BMW K1600 G A UNSTABLE NO MORE

I can't believe I made it to the 6 minute mark.....

I’ve got a 22GA. I could write a book on this.

I have the B version and have noticed the wind behind trucks etc on the highway. As far as I can tell it's the windshield. I had a 7 Jurock installed and depending on how much you put it up depends on how much you feel it. I tried a GT wind shield and it definetly changed. I just installed the Klock Werks like you have. That shield works much better when its down all the way in general so I will keep you posted. The BMW has a much higher center of gravity than the Harley, I also switched, so I think that's what we are feeling. The wind from truck impacts cars sometimes so to say some don't feel it is just not realistic, it's just so much different than Harleys.

I also already heard about the oscillating problem with another model which is Grand America, which it broke the deal So it now seems Bagger also has the same thing. It seems like it is a major design faulr Did they solve the issue ?